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Dan Ehrenkrantz's avatar

Another excellent dive into the forgiveness pool.

On reconciliation and forgiveness…some, like Griswold, conflate the two. Forgiveness for Griswold isn’t just letting go of past hurt. The point of forgiveness for him seems to be relationship restoration. Others say it’s possible to forgive without reconciling (this is the road you’re taking) and still others say it’s possible to reconcile without forgiving. “I now have a relationship with my sibling but for years we didn’t talk because X and I’ll never forgive X.”

People can choose how they want to define these terms and therefore I don’t think this is an argument that can be won. And you have every right to use these terms as you see fit.

What we’re left with is needing to insist on one definition of these terms for the sake of a particular conversation while at the same time knowing that outside that conversation, people will continue to use the terms differently.

We can say “such it is with important concepts—words like God, love, liberty, and freedom are understood differently by different people.” And then resign ourselves to the difficulties of continuing to use these words. But I wonder whether in the case of forgiveness, there’s possibly a deeper problem—and therefore potentially a different solution.

You write: “…although forgiveness may have interpersonal origins and implications…”. I’m not (yet?) convinced this is true. The origins of forgiveness seem to vary across cultures. I think the origins of forgiveness in our culture come from the Bible. And in the Hebrew Bible, forgiveness is something God does. Humans in the Bible behave in ways that we look at as embodying “forgiveness” but that’s our 21st century lens. It’s only God who is said to forgive. When Jesus comes along and forgives in the New Testament, it’s seen as a radical departure. Devout Christians see the type of forgiving Jesus does as special to Jesus—only Jesus and God can forgive in a particular fashion, forgiving peoples natures, not just interpersonal slights. Othef New Testament readers may read Jesus’ forgiving differently.

I think it may be because forgiveness is NOT interpersonal in its origins and implications that we end up tied up in knots when we seek agreement on exactly what forgiveness is.

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Berkowitz, Marvin W.'s avatar

Another way of spinning this whole line of reasoning is simply: do people need to earn your forgiveness (or respect) or are they due it simply by virtue of being human? Griswold and Darwall seem to load most heavily on the former. This may be orthogonal to whether forgiveness is for one’s own well-being or for the well-being of the person being forgiven. For Griswold and Darwall, it doesn’t seem to make sense to forgive someone without them knowing about it.

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